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Message started by DIY Charlie on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:25am

Title: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:25am
Hello. I would like to take a known good running in cylinder compression waveform for my database. The problem is my injectors are covered by the manifold so I can't disconnect it. My question is can I run it just enough to get a capture without flooding the cylinders?

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by busjockey on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 10:20am
What type of Vehicle are you working on?

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 2:46pm
It's 99 Mountaineer 5.0

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by busjockey on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 3:06pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:25am:
run it just enough to get a capture without flooding the cylinders?

Yes you can but limit it to running just enough till you get a steady reading.  Don't do it multiple times.  You will fill the crankcase with fuel.  Plus when your done testing check your oil and make sure it is not diluted from fuel.  If it is change your oil. :)  Don't forget to disable spark for that cylinder too. :)

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 4:37pm
will do thanks

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Abndanger on Apr 4th, 2018 at 2:09am

busjockey wrote on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 3:06pm:
Don't forget to disable spark for that cylinder too. 


He would need to have a spark tester installed as to keep stray voltage away from the pressure transducer and if he has secondary leads it would be nice to see where the spark is occurring while testing ;)

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by busjockey on Apr 4th, 2018 at 10:49am

Abndanger wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 2:09am:
if he has secondary leads it would be nice to see where the spark is occurring while testing

Very true, wasn't thinking about that.   :)

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Spence on Apr 4th, 2018 at 11:13am

busjockey wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 10:49am:

Abndanger wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 2:09am:
if he has secondary leads it would be nice to see where the spark is occurring while testing

Very true, wasn't thinking about that.   :)

We usually have the rookie stick his tongue on it for the test.   ;D

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 4th, 2018 at 1:14pm
For the time being I decided to take in cylinder pressure on my wife's car. It's a 2014 Elantra 1.8L. I'll post the snapshot later. For now lets say I dodged my wife's wrath. The adapter fitting that threaded to the compression hose was stuck in the spark plug hole! I tried a 17mm socket but the socket wall was to thick. My brother in-law is a mechanic so he came by and removed the fitting. Whew!!!

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Mick on Apr 4th, 2018 at 1:55pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
The adapter fitting that threaded to the compression hose was stuck in the spark plug hole!


What make of pressure transducer are you using?

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 4th, 2018 at 4:39pm
It was a custom

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Spence on Apr 4th, 2018 at 6:57pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
For the time being I decided to take in cylinder pressure on my wife's car. It's a 2014 Elantra 1.8L. I'll post the snapshot later. For now lets say I dodged my wife's wrath. The adapter fitting that threaded to the compression hose was stuck in the spark plug hole! I tried a 17mm socket but the socket wall was to thick. My brother in-law is a mechanic so he came by and removed the fitting. Whew!!!


Thank goodness for the brother-in-law mechanic!   ;D

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Mick on Apr 4th, 2018 at 7:18pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 4:39pm:
It was a custom


Thank you for replying back to me.

Will this custom unit calibrate to atmospheric pressure and form a line scaled to zero on your scope?


Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 5th, 2018 at 1:06pm
For some reason I can't post an image when i click the "choose file"


Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Tom Roberts on Apr 5th, 2018 at 2:21pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 5th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
For some reason I can't post an image when i click the "choose file"


Are you doing this?:

http://www.autonerdz.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1330357236

Please be sure to resize the image to make the file smaller.

Previewing a post will remove all attachments.

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:54am

Mick wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 7:18pm:

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 4:39pm:
It was a custom


Thank you for replying back to me.

Will this custom unit calibrate to atmospheric pressure and form a line scaled to zero on your scope?

On the Pico when it's unfiltered it looks like its on 0. Zoomed in and filtered though it's about 1.5 above 0

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Mick on Apr 6th, 2018 at 8:37am

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:54am:

Mick wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 7:18pm:

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 4:39pm:
It was a custom


Thank you for replying back to me.

Will this custom unit calibrate to atmospheric pressure and form a line scaled to zero on your scope?

On the Pico when it's unfiltered it looks like its on 0. Zoomed in and filtered though it's about 1.5 above 0


That sounds like a very noisy pattern.

You will not be able to accurately measure any pressures if you don't know were zero is. ;)

What part of the world do you live in?

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:20pm
This the 2014 Elantra
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Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm
1995 Maxima
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Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:22pm
1995 Maxima
Screenshot__48__001.png (88 KB | 207 )

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Mick on Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:38pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:20pm:
This the 2014 Elentra


Not to Bad DYI

This isn what a Hyundia looks like captured with a WPS
2014_Hyundia.jpg (271 KB | 229 )

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by Mick on Apr 6th, 2018 at 3:00pm

DIY Charlie wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
1995 Maxima


Yes that is cranking

Very similar to my Nissan here
Nissan_Cranking.jpg (285 KB | 229 )

Title: Re: In Cylinder Pressure Testing
Post by DIY Charlie on Apr 6th, 2018 at 5:41pm
Thanks. Can't compare the accuracy of yours. I would love to get the WPS but for what I do for family and friends and doing it for free, for it's price doesn't justify it. BTW I'm from New York.

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